tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post2265394069094354329..comments2024-03-23T17:29:56.224-05:00Comments on Stilton's Place: Needle in a Hate StackUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-59754672181023092162017-06-18T15:15:04.103-05:002017-06-18T15:15:04.103-05:00@Stilton, if I had your humor and artistic talent,...@Stilton, if I had your humor and artistic talent, I might agree. As it is, I'm just happy to be along for the ride.<br /><br />@Anonymous seems to be a troll, looking to make one of us say something transparently hateful to justify their own hate. Sorry. Head to the Daily Kos if you want that kind of action.<br /><br />@joe jetson, Scott Walker was someone I would have supported for President for the reasons you mention. He stood up to "big state" and won on their turf. If anyone had a chance against the bigger state, it would have been him.<br /><br />@Alfonso Bedoya, could it be that California is actually jumping the shark? Calling actual taxpayers the "freeloaders" was beyond the pale. <b>It's bad enough that in a state of true Progressive dementia, those who want to keep the fruits of their own labors considered "greedy" while those who demand that other's wealth is appropriated for their own personal benefit and personal vanity considered "virtuous".</b> Brown's "freeloader" comment was a leap beyond that. At this rate, the metaphor of "Will the last one out of the state please turn off the light" will no longer be a metaphor. The productive citizens that hold the place together will leaving as California lives out an actual <i>Atlas Shrugged"</i> scenario.<br /><br /><b>USS Fitzgerald:</b> I agree, @Geoff King. As someone with a certain level of sea experience, it's seems inconceivable to me that in this day and age that two vessels of this class should collide, day or night, regardless of weather. Even if everyone on watch was asleep, you'd think that on today's high-tech vessels brimming with electronic sensory designed to detect everything from incoming cruise missiles to jihadis in inflatables, that alarms would have been going off several minutes for a collision was imminent. <b>That the collision took place on the Fitzgerald's starboard side also suggest that the freighter had the right-of-way.</b><br /><br />It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Either way, the lost of crewmen in such an accident is tragic.John the Econnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-19931129340908296222017-06-18T14:09:34.246-05:002017-06-18T14:09:34.246-05:00Poor little Lefty Lucy... what a cute head to be h...Poor little Lefty Lucy... what a cute head to be housing a nerf brain!Bruce Bleunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-33439612246406091652017-06-18T10:35:49.969-05:002017-06-18T10:35:49.969-05:00@ Geoff: I wondered about that also. I remember ...@ Geoff: I wondered about that also. I remember in the 70[s when we were told that there was an oil crisis, etc. and for some reason oil tankers kept crashing and spilling oil all over the oceans. Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm?Judi Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05261744230143875668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-75853863305062351022017-06-18T07:05:24.428-05:002017-06-18T07:05:24.428-05:00Speaking of Navy ships, condolences to the familie...Speaking of Navy ships, condolences to the families of the seven dead crew members aboard the USS Fitzgerald.<br />That said, I must wonder how it is possible for a lowly cargo ship to ram a highly sophisticated Navy vessel on a clear night?<br />Was the radar operator asleep at his post?<br />I can only assume that heads will roll over this incident. Otherwise, Kim Jong Un's threat to shoot missiles at our ships becomes much more likely of success.Geoff Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01702402850031773761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-7673412366316282002017-06-17T20:35:42.613-05:002017-06-17T20:35:42.613-05:00There’s a Petition to Name the Next Navy Ship ‘USS...There’s a Petition to Name the Next Navy Ship ‘USS The Deplorables’<br /><br />https://townhall.com/tipsheet/erikahaas/2016/12/05/theres-a-petition-to-name-the-next-navy-ship-uss-the-deplorables-n2255278jlwnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-509104237010257242017-06-17T16:04:23.902-05:002017-06-17T16:04:23.902-05:00Fred, it's interesting that liberals have no p...Fred, it's interesting that liberals have no problem pushing their agenda on everyone else, and without any form of invitation or provokation. It seems that conservatives are far more polite by not pasting bumper stickers on their cars, engaging in unproductive protests and otherwise acting like spoiled children. I live in Santa Rosa (Sonoma County), and have never seen such hate-filled rhetoric from so many people. I am just not used to it, and have had fond thoughts of moving to northern Arizona to evade the liberal juggernaut that has infested my home state.<br /><br />My only respite is visiting our "getaway" property near Graeagle, California, where I saw many "Trump/Pence" signs by the road and on rear bumpers before the election last year. Such signs in Sonoma County would have been torn down or torched. In Santa Rosa, as mostly elsewhere in California, it is virtually impossible to carry legally, since Sheriffs just don't ordinarily issue Concealed Carry Permits to us "common folk."<br /><br />It's gotten so bad that Governor Moonbeam has called those of us who pay taxes "freeloaders." I was born and raised here, and never would have dreamed that it would have gotten to this..<br /><br />http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/05/17/jerry-brown-california-taxpayers-freeloaders/<br /><br /> Alfonso Bedoyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12275837016861108459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-36885996463790690632017-06-17T15:19:09.447-05:002017-06-17T15:19:09.447-05:00Alfonso, That's the biggest part of the reason...Alfonso, That's the biggest part of the reason we moved from the Bay Area to Appalachia. I was an aerospace engineer making the big bucks, moved to hillybillyland and worked as an engineer for an underground coal mining equipment company. From up in the air to underground, sort of. I have one other brother and 3 sisters who are libs but not as fanatical. Our little town in the mountains is about 98.6% conservative and the progs keep a low profile. And everybody carries. <br /><br />Most of our kids followed but one. He stayed in central CA and is very conservative. Plus, now that we are retired, we live better than we would have in San Jose.Fred Ciampihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15088811777685044911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-41977337098185398822017-06-17T15:08:46.389-05:002017-06-17T15:08:46.389-05:00Fred, this is exactly what I have also come up aga...Fred, this is exactly what I have also come up against. When I ask a liberal why he/she is so dogmatic about his/her opinions, then ask for the rationale behind those opinions, he or she can't produce anything logical, historically accurate or with any scintilla of common sense. It is very frustrating, and frankly, my blood pressure tends to suffer as a result of even entering into such dialogs. <br /><br />I spend several hours each day reviewing and digesting the "news," and constantly try to test my political resolve, but I always end up with the same opinion(s) I had in the first place. Having any type of realistic discussion with a liberal is tantamount to talking to a telephone pole or to our new 3-month old kitten. <br /><br />Sorry about your brother's ignorance and refusal to learn something new. My wife's brother is in the same condition. He doesn't want to listen to any other viewpoint than his own, which is deeply flawed. Just to keep the peace, I try to steer conversations into subjects that are apolitical. Helps with the blood pressure, also. Needless to say, his infrequent visits are not ones that I anticipate with glee. But....outside of the family, liberals are considered fair game.Alfonso Bedoyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12275837016861108459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-64498314557089249902017-06-17T11:07:13.300-05:002017-06-17T11:07:13.300-05:00Stilt, you said "And this leads us to the cru...Stilt, you said "And this leads us to the crux of the problem; those on the Left should also be listening, counseling, and rebuking with love if they believe us to be on the wrong side. They should engage in honest debate if they believe that their ideas will win. But instead, they discourage dialogue (even rioting when the mood suits them) and instead simply demonize those on the Right rather than seeing us as caring human beings who are probably reaching for common goals albeit from a different direction."<br /><br />True story; I sent a wonderful essay by Dr, Thomas Sowell to a screaming lib (my brother) asking his opinion on it. As we all know, Dr. Sowell states facts after he researches them. His answer; "I was standing behind a horse the other day and the horse lifted his tail and out came Sowell". Yes, this is what we are up against. Sigh.<br />Fred Ciampihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15088811777685044911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-49192179520594864082017-06-17T09:45:21.329-05:002017-06-17T09:45:21.329-05:00@James Daily- Yes, at times like this it can be ve...@James Daily- Yes, at times like this it can be very useful to know History. Sadly, when I look at the Left these days I think their 15-minute attention spans negate any chance of benefitting from knowledge of the past.<br /><br />@REM1875- I don't deny the troubling similarities and freely admit my mixed feelings about what to do. And yes, it is sad.<br /><br />@a follower- I'm not religious, but one doesn't really have to be to find the wisdom in what you're saying. Listen, counsel, rebuke with love. Will that be enough? I don't know - but it's important to try before embracing other actions.<br /><br />And this leads us to the crux of the problem; those on the Left should <i>also</i> be listening, counseling, and rebuking <i>with love</i> if they believe us to be on the wrong side. They should engage in honest debate if they believe that their ideas will win. But instead, they discourage dialogue (even rioting when the mood suits them) and instead simply demonize those on the Right rather than seeing us as caring human beings who are probably reaching for common goals albeit from a different direction.<br /><br />We need to try to keep lines of communication open - but the Left needs to do the same.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-4185192315713934822017-06-17T08:22:20.013-05:002017-06-17T08:22:20.013-05:00We are to be the needle.
Be Truthful, this does c...We are to be the needle.<br /> Be Truthful, this does change as the lies are revealed.<br /> We are to be patient. we may be the ones who need to listen. We are to counsel edify, rebuke with love.<br />As some are fond of saying, "we were warned." So why should any of us be surprised at what we are seeing? We were also told our part in these days. How are we to react? We are not to become as the world.<br />"Do not quench the Spirit, Do not despise Prophecies, prove them all. Hold fast to what is good. Keep back from every form of wickedness.<br /> And the Yahuah of peace Himself set you completely apart, and your entire Ruach (Spirit,) and being, and body- be preserved blameless at the coming of our Master Yahusha Mashiak.<br />Forgive others daily.<br />a followernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-25169315164214238902017-06-17T07:43:56.214-05:002017-06-17T07:43:56.214-05:00"We hope that isn't the case with our fri..."We hope that isn't the case with our friend, whom we know to be a decent and good-hearted person."<br /><br />And this is how the average German felt about their National Socialist neighbor or the average Russian felt about their "Red" Neighbor in 1918 and how so many feel about their neighbor's kid who is a little off and wears the Antifa symbol on their hoodie....Good people except for a few minor idiosyncrasies we tend to overlook.....<br />Sad .....Truly sad......<br />REM1875https://www.blogger.com/profile/04847984055699795355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-90131148839175032102017-06-16T20:08:12.075-05:002017-06-16T20:08:12.075-05:00If these leftist had a brain in their head, they w...If these leftist had a brain in their head, they would read about the Russian revolution of 1905 and the French revolution of 1789. It is after the revolution has succeeded that they might want to rethink. Secondly, if they believe that the conservatives will go quietly to the gallows, they best think again. Then, in Germany when the Nazi's started dehumanizing the Jews, it was o.k. to kill them because they were not human. From that we learn that violence is great if it is directed at someone other than yourself and whom it is directed is someone you do not like, doesn't even have to be an enemy, just not your political beliefs. <br /> If the left leaders think they will be leading tomorrow, they should rethink again. When the younger people get a taste of power, they will send these old folks to the guillotine without a second thought. james dailyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09040145296544586736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-12333209215832920922017-06-16T19:40:08.063-05:002017-06-16T19:40:08.063-05:00@ joe jetson- Great comments! I agree that we need...@ joe jetson- Great comments! I agree that we need to "keep the faith" and remember that most Americans are genuinely decent people. They just aren't getting much press.<br /><br />@Fred Ciampi- That sounds familiar, but my memory is vague too. It DOES seem like these "protesters" who show up with their faces concealed are likely premeditating criminal activities.<br /><br />@Harry Hamid- I actually got goosebumps reading your comments. I agree completely. The phenomenon you're describing is called "confirmation bias," and it's not a good thing. People seek out what they expect to hear and cut out the rest - leading to dangerous tunnel vision.<br /><br />When you say you lean left on more issues than you lean right, I'd love to compare notes. I'm in favor of Gay rights, I detest abortion but think it should be legal (albeit performed less often), think marijuana should be decriminalized and regulated, and I hold other traditionally "social liberal" views. Matched, of course, with a butt load of conservative and libertarian stances.<br /><br />That's a complexity that certainly isn't unique to me - we're all on a spectrum (I'm not sure I'd trust anyone who is unilaterally Left or Right). Our country isn't going to get very far if we think everyone can be defined as "Us" or "Them." And you're absolutely correct that we should all be engaged in the business of speaking up when someone goes too far.<br /><br />Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-85177715535580086232017-06-16T19:34:27.392-05:002017-06-16T19:34:27.392-05:00@ Fred C.
"United States[edit]
In many US st...@ Fred C.<br /><br />"United States[edit]<br />In many US states and the District of Columbia, there are anti-mask laws.[1]<br />Anti-mask laws date back to the mid-20th century when states and municipalities passed them as to inhibit the Ku Klux Klan, whose members typically wore hoods of white linen to conceal their identities.[2][better source needed] [3]<br />In the 21st century those laws have been applied to political protesters such as those affiliated with the Occupy Movement or Anonymous—wearing Guy Fawkes masks—.[4][5][6][7]<br />In some areas motorcyclists have been arrested using anti-masking laws as an illegal form of offender profiling. [8]"<br /><br />the above is from wiki, below from Constitutional Law Prof Blog<br /><br />http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/conlaw/2015/07/anti-masking-laws-the-ku-klux-klan-and-the-first-amendment.html<br /><br />it looks to me like there are state and municipal laws. i didn't find federal.<br />jlwnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-69494657473289647252017-06-16T18:41:58.584-05:002017-06-16T18:41:58.584-05:00Harry Hamid - +3Harry Hamid - +3Stan da Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-32261212192883456682017-06-16T17:44:30.661-05:002017-06-16T17:44:30.661-05:00I am not a centrist and I lean left on far more is...I am not a centrist and I lean left on far more issues than I lean right on (although I don't align myself with any group). But I've seen what often happens to people who consume one kind of media for their "news."<br /><br />We're able to go to websites and set up our facebook feeds in a way where we consume a steady stream of stories about how bad one type of people are... all day every day. I can read articles all day long exclusively about bad things Muslims have done. Or I can read articles and watch clips all day long about Trump supporters screaming racist things at Target. Or Christians acting together to do bad things to gay people. Or liberals advocating dumb things against Republicans.<br /><br />And after so many days and weeks and months of this steady stream of ugly news stories, who wouldn't start to think ALL people in X group are dangerous? Not just wrong or of different beliefs, but flat out fundamentally different and dangerous?<br /><br />If I frequented a site where all they did was post stories about bad things left-handed people did, or people named James, or the worst things gardenershhad done, I'd really start to think that left-handed people or Jims or gardeners weren't like other people and maybe so dangerous that we need to start planning to do something about them.<br /><br />Now, most people aren't going to turn to violence, but some will.<br /><br />We can't shut down the sites that selectively pick their stories, of course. We can't stop people from selecting those sites.<br /><br />So what can we do?<br /><br />I guess we can all take responsibility for what we consume, for starters. And we can refuse to justify unhealthy generalizations simply because they're against people we politically oppose - or justify unhealthy generalizations just because "the other side started it."<br /><br />We can call people on it - ESPECIALLY those on "our side" - when we hear them make a potentially unhealthy generalization. <br /><br />That's what I can do to defuse the situation we find outselves in.<br /><br />It's natural to get mad in the face of leaders with whom we don't agree doing things we believe are counter-productive. There's nothing wrong with it. There IS something wrong with dehumanizing those with whom we don't agree, though. <br /><br />It's up to each one of us, I believe. Harry Hamidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13176265571549991218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-40780558268964404002017-06-16T17:25:01.225-05:002017-06-16T17:25:01.225-05:00Something just dawned on me; Wasn't there a fe...Something just dawned on me; Wasn't there a federal law passed about 30 years' ago that forbid the wearing of ski masks or any other face covering for the purpose of hiding one's identity? If my old and feeble memory serves me correctly, it was authored by good 'ole boy Bob Byrd. Anybody?!?!?!?!?!?!Fred Ciampihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15088811777685044911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-50194944282698366662017-06-16T16:32:02.043-05:002017-06-16T16:32:02.043-05:00In Wisconsin, we survived Liberal Hate/Derangement...In Wisconsin, we survived Liberal Hate/Derangement Syndrome back in 2010. <br /><br />Our new Republican Governor clamped down on Public Employee Union excesses, and the goons went insane. This led to the infamous "Recall" Election for the Governor and several GOP State Reps and Senators. GOP politicians were targets of death threats, never-ending protests, and the loons even staged idiotic "Sing-In's" at the Statehouse. They stormed and "occupied" the Capitol building. They scrawled their filthy leftist graffiti slogans and obscenities on the walls of The Peoples' House. Their rabid tantrums went on for months. <br /><br />Finally, their big day arrived as the Recall Elections were held. To the snowflakes' and Union Goons' shock, the majority of decent, normal Wisconsinites were so sickened and disgusted by these adult crybabies that Gov. Walker won the Recall Election by MORE votes than he won his original Election.<br /><br />His Public Union Reforms were the main factor in paying off the previous democrat Governor's ballooning deficit. Gov. Walker has won re-election again since then. Also, the GOP majority in the State Senate and House have increased as Conservative policies succeeded. Conservative Judges have won more seats on the State Supreme Court.<br /><br />Then, ultimately, Donald J. Trump flipped the state from Dem to GOP for the first time since Reagan. This was a "yuuge" key to Trump's stunning Victory.<br /><br />Almost every night now, on their Big-Screen TV's, Americans are seeing these rioting anarchists, costumed in black from head-to-toe, hooded, masked, armed, and violent. They smash, burn, loot, assault and riot, while the Media refers to them as "Protesters". I believe decent Americans are repulsed by these scum (including the media). <br /><br />They see Hollywood celebrities issuing not-so-lightly-veiled death threats towards our President. <br /><br />They hear the Media editorialize instead of report the news. They remember the fake media polls telling us "Trump has no chance to beat Hillary". Americans know the media is lying to them about fake "scandals". People know they are being lied to by agenda-driven media elites. <br /><br />People see James Brown-lookalike policians screeching "Impeach 45!" or sniveling liars shedding crocodile tears as their failed socialist programs and policies are dismantled one by one.<br /><br />Thank goodness we have a real fighter in the White House for a change. With the meek and gutless GOP "Leadership" cowering in the background, President Trump realizes he must fight even harder for us. <br /><br />So the Moral of This Story is "Keep The Faith". I believe there are still more decent, Patriotic Americans than these sick, disturbed, unhinged liberals. <br /><br />To quote a great man, "We will Win, and Win and Win!" MAGA!Joe Jetsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03923530588639176903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-16473115797868995842017-06-16T16:11:23.866-05:002017-06-16T16:11:23.866-05:00@Pete (Detroit)- For the record, there are absolut...@Pete (Detroit)- For the record, there are absolutely screaming, hating, bigots out there and they are a stain on America. I recoil at some things I've seen on "conservative" websites. Fortunately, those people are only a small (but depressingly loud) minority.<br /><br />And I'm not quite sure how to achieve that cross-ideology dialogue, but I know how important it is that we find a way to have it - and soon.<br /><br />@Anonymous- Well, see, I'm going to have to call bullshit on your comments. You're confusing rhetoric with reality, and throwing gas on the fire. What in the living Hell do you think would be left of our society if we <b>ERADICATE THE LEFT</b>, especially if they didn't succumb to all caps and bold typefaces?<br /><br />I believe that most people on the Left are well-intentioned and poorly informed. Ignorance is not a capital crime, and treating it as such would make us the very monsters we're accused of being.<br /><br />Ask yourself: would it have been a <i>positive</i> thing if a Trump-lover had decided to get on with the business of ERADICATING THE LEFT by shooting Democrats while they're playing baseball? If you just answered "yes," then you're as much a part of the problem as they are.<br /><br />And regarding "The Chicago Way" speech from The Untouchables, you're <i>also</i> quoting Barack Obama (who used it in a speech). That should be a clue that you might not be on the right track.<br /><br />By the way, I'm leaving your post up because it's the honest thing to do, and because I wanted to respond to it directly. That being said, further posts in this vein will get nuked.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-18832315777359101072017-06-16T15:55:53.557-05:002017-06-16T15:55:53.557-05:00@Anonymous- When you subtract the gun deaths from ...@Anonymous- When you subtract the gun deaths from gang violence (largely in Democrat-controlled areas) and suicide, the number of actual gun deaths compared to the number of guns out there is remarkably low. Do I wish the number was "zero?" Of course. But then, I wish for a lot of things.<br /><br />@Anonymous- The Left might actually find more people amenable to gun control if they stopped posting online that they want us dead.<br /><br />@John the Econ- I often think that you should be on the front page of this blog, while I deliver snark in the comments section. This is one of those times: <i>excellent</i> point about the "danger" presented by Dukes of Hazzard, and the horrifying reality of Somalia. A new civil war will not have any winners.<br /><br />@Shelly- People form their opinions based on the information they get, and too many Americans are getting very little other than poisonous lies. How could they feel any <i>other</i> way about what they believe to be happening? Like you, I feel pity for these people, and anger at those who are doing the lying. Mostly, I feel sad about our future.<br /><br />@Ralph- I agree that if karma reliably worked, we'd all need to be minding our p's and q's a lot more closely. Which might not be a bad thing.<br /><br />Regarding the Ten Arabic Words, it's really worth following the link you provided - thanks!<br /><br />@Paul D Garber- I like the idea of all members of Congress being given guns and training. Whether they choose to carry afterwards can be up to them - though they shouldn't make up their minds before finding out whether they'll receive any <i>other</i> armed security.<br /><br />Regarding Pelosi, she <i>does</i> seem to be exhibiting more cognitive impairment than before. Which, until now, I wouldn't have thought possible.<br />Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-34579963448711420822017-06-16T15:45:39.144-05:002017-06-16T15:45:39.144-05:00@Paul Gerber: Well-said. The solution you presente...@Paul Gerber: Well-said. The solution you presented contains far too much common sense for liberals and liberal anti-gunners to grasp. Unfortunately, NRA/CRPA members in California are forced to continue to endure the blather that Pelosi and her sad ilk spew re their completely idiotic idea that more "gun control" will solve the problem of violence. Law-abiding Californians have been effectively stripped of their right to self-defense by a cabal of politicians who have joined the liberal lemmings who continue to keep them in office. <br /><br />I am a life member of the NRA and new member of the California Rifle and Pistol Association and fully support the idea that CCW permits should be approved for all members of Congress, BUT if so, "ordinary" law-abiding citizens should also be afforded the same privilege. Alfonso Bedoyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12275837016861108459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-35391106481955795582017-06-16T15:37:43.337-05:002017-06-16T15:37:43.337-05:00@Alej- In the current atmosphere, I don't see ...@Alej- In the current atmosphere, I don't see us "coming together" in a rational way. And that makes my heart ache. I don't think secession is entirely impossible anymore - especially since I live in Texas, which was already a country once.<br /><br />@Dick Lowman- Thank you. I assure you the sentiments are heartfelt.<br /><br />@TrickyRicky- If that WASN'T a call for violence from Lynch, I don't know what the hell it was.<br /><br />@American Cowboy- These days, the "pessimist or realist" debate reminds me of the old argument about Certs being a breath mint or a candy mint.<br /><br />@Dave N.- I hope "prepper" precautions aren't necessary, but I can't say they're imprudent. I've got about 2 weeks worth of food and 4 weeks worth of alcohol. Granted, if the SHTF I might go through the alcohol faster than that...<br /><br />@Tonto Kowalski- That's a Plastic Ono Band song by Lennon, right? Believe I need to listen to that one again; I've always liked it better than "Imagine."<br /><br />@Jerry- Here's the thing: I know that my friend has had some really hard knocks in life, and now she (and her family members) are using information that simply isn't true to make their decisions. Not to get too deeply into semantics, but that doesn't make <i>them</i> evil...but it can make their misguided actions indistinguishable from evil. They hate the Right because they believe that people like Paul Ryan are trying to pull off an anti-poor holocaust in our country, because "news" outlets report that "millions will die" because of GOP shenanigans. If I actually believed that, I'd probably be in their camp and thinking myself a freedom fighter.<br /><br />So I can't give up on these people, but I don't know how to reach them.<br /><br />@Alfonso Bedoya- You've described the sad reality of this situation more eloquently than I ever could. This is not the traditional schism between generations; we're finding ourselves unwilling participants in a culture war in which the wrong side has most of the power.<br /><br />@Judi King- Well said.<br /><br />@Rod- It's <i>never</i> a bad idea to try Slim Whitman's "Indian Love Call!"<br /><br />@SC- As I recall, consequences or not, a lot of <i>us</i> didn't shut up. Nor should we have, nor should those on the Left. Rather, we should engage in honest debate and let ideas compete - based on genuine facts.<br /><br />@John the Econ- I can't add a thing to what you said. Exactly right.<br /><br />@American Cowboy- In fairness, McAuliffe was only off by 92,999,907.<br /><br />@GenEarly- Sadly, I think a number of Leftists would welcome social breakdown under the belief that everything would be rebuilt as a socialist utopia. Granted, it's never worked before...but without an appreciation of history, how could they possible know that?<br /><br />@Colby Muenster- I can't help but think how much less-stressed and cordial folks would be without hearing the (ahem) "news" these days, or being invested in the echo-chambers of social media. People - on both sides - now treat political minutiae as immediate personal threats. Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-48807115640724954462017-06-16T15:22:10.624-05:002017-06-16T15:22:10.624-05:00"We can and should continue calling for great...<i>"We can and should continue calling for greater civility in public and personal discourse as well as greater journalistic responsibility in the media (as we've done in this space for almost a decade), but we don't think either is likely to happen at this point."</i><br /><br /><b>NO. We can and should call for the ERADICATION OF THE LEFT, and NOTHING LESS.</b><br />They want YOU DEAD.<br />They want ME dead.<br />GET IT?!?<br /><br />You can "debate" with all the rational arguments you have, BUT<br />when they REPEATEDLY respond with the brain-dead equivalent of,<br />"you are EVIL! You must be destroyed!"<br />Then YOU MUST ACCEPT that discourse is NO LONGER A VIABLE OPTION.<br /><br />To delusionally "hope" it still IS a realistic option is SUICIDAL.<br />THEY MUST BE ERADICATED.<br /><br />Think: "The Chicago Way" speech of Sean Connery in the film "The Untouchables"<br />(available on youtube).<br /><br />In the meanwhile, watch this and enjoy:<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0bS95mSZ44<br />by Stefan MolyneuxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-15493432922202506342017-06-16T15:14:53.005-05:002017-06-16T15:14:53.005-05:00Another site I follow is an excellent news digest,...Another site I follow is an excellent news digest, but some of the commenters truly seem to be the hateful bigots that the left tries to paint all conservatives as. Anti gay, anti Islam, anti black (in fairness, mostly 'black culture' rather than skin color, but still...) It's queeze inducing at times... <br /><br />That being said, attempting to engage in dialog w/ a fanatic is useless. They are not interested in other points of view, logic supported by fact, or even the rhetorical failure technique of appeal to emotion. All they are interested in is a conversion experience - yours. Dialog w/ a fanatic is pretty much an oxymoron. This includes "dialogs" where one fanatic is you.... <br /><br />THAT having been said rational dialog CAN be possible. Trying to get to the root of their feelings can take a lot of painful questions, and subject to eye rolls and 'well, EVERYONE knows, DUH...' <br />But if you're willing to put in the effort, 'no, I don't know that, can you explain it to me / what's your evidence?' you might be able to get people to think things over. <br />Not sure it's worth the effort. <br />Young Friend of mine "well, I CAN'T vote Republican, because, vagina"... MMmmmmkay... <br />Apparently, she fears Republicans want to make abortion illegal (and she's not entirely wrong) and that's more important to her than jobs, economy, foreign policy, etc.<br /><br />We, as conservatives, have the obligation to "re-take" the R party, get rid of the statist jerks and be inclusive, and win people over w/ ideas.<br /><br />Agreed John the Econ, Somalia is a GREAT example of what happens when SHTF and it all degrades to tribal warlordism. not really where *I* want to live. Pete (Detroit)noreply@blogger.com