tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post4673310142402208206..comments2024-03-23T17:29:56.224-05:00Comments on Stilton's Place: Knife Guys Finish FirstUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-7835517366298965162017-07-23T08:03:38.771-05:002017-07-23T08:03:38.771-05:00@rdb- Succinct and to the point. I can't hones...@rdb- Succinct and to the point. I can't honestly say that OJ doesn't deserve parole on this specific charge, just that I don't like it.<br /><br />@Emmentaler "Apologetic As All Hell" Limburger- No apologies necessary AT ALL. We were just having a pleasant conversation and I don't disagree with any of your points. As you say, the timing of the Internet and the sterility of text can sometimes impede actual communication. I never took anything you said as anything other than good.<br /><br />@Walter L Stafford- I can't bring myself to wish vigilante justice on OJ, though I must admit I smiled when the prison system "handled" Jeffrey Dahmer. <br /><br />@John the Econ- Well <i>I'm</i> not going to "let you have it," as you make excellent points. Now that you refresh my memory, I recall that there was some spectacularly bad handling of evidence at the time. Were I an actual juror making a life and death decision, I would have had to take that into account. <br /><br />And good observations about the "Pre-Kardashians." In some ways, thanks to Robert Kardashian taking part in the trial (and perhaps, some suggest, hiding evidence for his pal OJ) this was really "The Kardashians - Chapter One."<br /><br />@Colby Muenster- Not that Mr. Trump got <i>too</i> far out of the news cycle, thanks to Mueller escalating things.<br /><br />@Bruce Bleu- Good point; I'm sure OJ sees the "real killer" every time he brushes his teeth.<br /><br />@REM1875- And <i>that's</i> the kind of "glass half full" observation that exemplifies the optimistic nature of this blog!<br /><br />@Shelly- I'm guessing OJ will now fade from view until his actual release, after which he'll make a brief media splash and then be pretty quiet until he's returned to prison for parole violation. Considering his lack of impulse control, I don't think it will take long.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-1802077604060302122017-07-22T12:20:51.236-05:002017-07-22T12:20:51.236-05:00@Colby Muenster, that was my exact thought. At le...@Colby Muenster, that was my exact thought. At least for a short while, the media had something else to obsess on instead of Trump sucks, Russia Russia Russia. As far as OJ goes, if I never heard his name or saw his mug again, that would be too soon. He got far more publicity than he deserved and IMHO is an unrepentant vicious murderer. I hope he rots in hell. OTOH, he could take up with Casey Anthony in Florida and they could swap stories.Shellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-9586121837555540122017-07-21T23:15:20.672-05:002017-07-21T23:15:20.672-05:00Well on the bright side - he does look well tanned...Well on the bright side - he does look well tanned and rested ...........REM1875https://www.blogger.com/profile/04847984055699795355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-11921836436832062572017-07-21T15:01:47.424-05:002017-07-21T15:01:47.424-05:00Are you telling me that OJ doesn't own a MIRRO...Are you telling me that OJ doesn't own a MIRROR?Bruce Bleunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-48752383350798295072017-07-21T12:34:22.064-05:002017-07-21T12:34:22.064-05:00And Donald Trump said, "Thank GOD the news is...And Donald Trump said, "Thank GOD the news isn't 24-7 Russia collusion!"Colby Muensterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16910666550508273829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-17842173370839096712017-07-21T11:25:09.757-05:002017-07-21T11:25:09.757-05:00The Brown Family: Don't get me started on the...<b>The Brown Family:</b> Don't get me started on them. They were the "Pre Kardashians". <br /> Nicole Brown was the perfect feminist victim; a woman, abused, and eventually killed by an angry, out-of-control rich man. The Brown family (largely sister Denise) used their sister's death and cause celebre as a stepping stone into into LA's hip nightlife scene. They created <i>The Nicole Brown Charitable Foundation</i> supposedly to combat domestic violence. In reality, <a href="http://truthsaboutnbcf.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">it was just another fraudulent charity that existed mainly to throw lavish fundraiser parties so that the Brown's could hobnob with LA's celebrity elite</a>. The foundation itself did little to no real work and gave pennies to the actual charities that did. It also helped Denise Brown from having to get a real job.<br /><br />20 years ago, I was an online moderator for a major national newspaper. At the time, many people thought the Browns, through their victim status, walked on water. I pointed out that their charity was a shallow sham. You would have thought I was knocking Jesus on Easter. <b>I bet a whole lot of people $100 that in 10 years the Nicole Brown Simpson Foundation would not be in any way relevant, if it still existed at all.</b> <a href="http://www.showbiz411.com/2014/06/02/20-years-after-the-murders-nicole-brown-simpson-foundation-is-gone" rel="nofollow">Turns out that a lot of people owe me a lot of money</a>. Not holding my breath on collecting any of it.John the Econnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-12602879015982245582017-07-21T10:51:09.605-05:002017-07-21T10:51:09.605-05:00I lived in Southern California during the original...I lived in Southern California during the original OJ escapades and trail, where everything became "All OJ, all the time". It really was nearly impossible to escape.<br /><br />And it really was a shame that it turned out that OJ was a homicidal creep. His public image before the sordid details of his private life came out was unparalleled. The Progressive narrative back then was basically the same as it is today regarding race; that white America was irredeemably racist. And yet it would have been difficult to find anybody would would have minded having OJ as their next-door neighbor, in the same way that people loved Bill Cosby before the sordid details of his private life took him from the heights of loveability to the pit of disdain. In other words, OJ was proof that America wasn't the racist hate-hole the left likes to portray it as. We just hate thugs.<br /><br /><b>The OJ Trial:</b> What I am about to say below may shock you.<br /><br /><b><i>Had I been on the OJ jury, I would have likely voted to acquit.</i></b><br /><br />The OJ trail was sensational, and broadcast on live TV end-to-end and I have to admit that I saw a fair amount of it. Why would I have voted to acquit? <b><i>Because through sheer incompetence, the state botched what should have been an open and shut case.</i></b><br /><br />Don't get me wrong here. I think OJ was guilty as sin. And I have no doubt that race played a role in the decision of some if not many of the jurors. However, the linchpin to the whole case was the DNA evidence, and we were to discover that the LA crime lab was incompetently run. Procedures were sloppy. Evidence was mishandled. The lab itself was a mess. It disturbed me that DNA evidence (still relatively new at the time) which theoretically provided such certainty could also be so compromised. This was more than enough to wipe away the <i>proof beyond a reasonable doubt</i> legally required for a murder conviction.<br /><br />The state is the only entity legally empowered to deprive a citizen of their property, freedom or life. That's an awesome power that we as (supposedly) freedom-loving citizens must respect, both as the governed and governing. If the state is going to deprive someone of their property, freedom or life, it's got to make it's case <a href="http://law.justia.com/constitution/us/amendment-14/59-burden-of-proof-and-presumptions.html" rel="nofollow">and make it solid</a>. And in the case of OJ, IMHO they did not. By screwing up what should have been a slam-dunk, they allowed "reasonable doubt" about the "preponderance of the evidence" to enter my mind, which would have been enough for me to acquit.<br /><br />Okay, let me have it.John the Econnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-67529884453502373202017-07-21T10:23:39.931-05:002017-07-21T10:23:39.931-05:00For OJ, the fat lady ain't sung yet. There wil...For OJ, the fat lady ain't sung yet. There will be someone that remembers the chicanery associated with this pseudo trial and will serve justice to OJ in a manner resembling his killing of two people. Then the fat lady will sing an aria to justice being served after all these years!Walter L. Staffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17830837834381703491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-50074730890131262792017-07-21T10:23:10.986-05:002017-07-21T10:23:10.986-05:00(Stilt: Our postings crossed in the ether - I some...(Stilt: Our postings crossed in the ether - I sometimes start a reply, get pulled away, and then finish. That my second posit was not intended as a rebuttal to your post - though the vagaries of internet timing may make it appear so.<br /><br />You were spot on - my whole point was that we receive all data regarding events we are not personally present to observe through the lens - and filter - of those reporting it. Yet, we tend to believe them when our position - opinion, observations, whatever - agrees with the reporting. Some blindly; blind to the potential that even that reporting was arranged to skew perception from reality. The OJ bit was simply a facile vehicle for this argument.<br /><br />No offense; not trying to point out the hypocrisy of anyone living or dead. Any resemblance to any real person is merely coincidental...)Emmentaler "Apologetic As All Hell" Limburgerhttp://pateratic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-55995294263961519362017-07-21T09:15:53.482-05:002017-07-21T09:15:53.482-05:00OJ should be free. He has served more than most c...OJ should be free. He has served more than most criminals do for the same crime and he has been a model prisoner during his time. He deserves parole.<br /><br />Now on the other hand, he is a murdering mofo who will get his at some point. Maybe not until judgment day, but he will get his.rdbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-60957941074531173852017-07-21T09:01:25.906-05:002017-07-21T09:01:25.906-05:00@Emmentaler "Still In Hell" Limburger-
...@Emmentaler "Still In Hell" Limburger-<br /><br />I'm not basing my judgement on what the MSM reported, I'm basing it on what I <i>heard and saw with my own eyes</i> during that endless - but televised - trial. I had the same information as the jurors. Clearly it's not a perfect system, and it's nearly impossible to know the truth absolutely. So we do the best we can with experts, evidence, and logic. By that standard, and NOT relying on MSM opinionating, I would have been comfortable voting to send OJ to prison for life, or to execution.<br /><br />Were I basing my opinion on what the "news" media reported, I would indeed deserve a shellacking for hypocrisy.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-62729251142091516712017-07-21T08:51:42.426-05:002017-07-21T08:51:42.426-05:00...all through the efforts of the MSM we know and ......all through the efforts of the MSM we know and trust...<br /><br />My OPINION: I have been informed of no-one else with motive - though motive is often missing from such acts. My OPINION: Yeah, he probably did it. Do I or anyone else *KNOW* he did it? Again, if that were the case, and this person was known to the prosecutors, they would have been paraded in front of the jury and OJ would have been convicted. <br /><br />But, still: how did you and I come upon ANY information whatsoever regarding this epoch? The MSM. But why would they lie to us? Why would they want to destroy someone?<br /><br />Again: why do we trust their reporting in this matter, but not in regard to event surrounding Martin, Brown, Clinton, Trump, Russia, Flynn, et al? <br /><br />It does beg some introspection, at the very least...Emmentaler "Still In Hell" Limburgerhttp://pateratic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-46952545751213241412017-07-21T08:46:27.446-05:002017-07-21T08:46:27.446-05:00@Mike aka Proof- Hey, it's as good as the actu...@Mike aka Proof- Hey, it's as good as the <i>actual</i> defense argument.<br /><br />@James Daily- You're right that the trial pretty much threw the victims out. Not surprising: the defense couldn't win <i>that</i> case, but <i>could</i> win by changing the case to race.<br /><br />@REM1875- Salt, meet wound.<br /><br />@Jim Lane- Maybe OJ could get back into the entertainment business by wrestling alligators in Florida. Granted, a lot of attendees would be rooting for the gator...<br /><br />@M. Mitchell Marmel- Didn't I just read somewhere that a Florida judge has ruled against the "stand your ground" law? Poor timing, that.<br /><br />@pdwalker- I'm guessing he could do well as a celebrity chef at Benihana...<br /><br />@Judi King- I hope so.<br /><br />@Fred Ciampi- The weed of crime bears bitter fruit.<br /><br />@chef621- Weren't those Johnny Cochran's last words?<br /><br />@Bobo the Hobo- Let me start by proclaiming my ignorance about what the Parole Board was able to consider. Obviously it should be focused on the crime he was convicted for, but shouldn't evidence of OJ's character come into play? The board cited lack of any prior criminal convictions...but as long as they're looking backwards, why NOT consider the civil conviction naming him responsible for the deaths?<br /><br />@Emmentaler "Devil's Advocate" Limburger- I'll see your devil's advocacy and raise you an assload of evidence: OJ's DNA at the crime scene, OJ's hair in the cap left by the killer, OJ's unique shoe prints at the crime scene, testimony by a limo driver at OJ's house who couldn't raise him by phone, saw someone race into the house, then got a breathless OJ on the phone telling him to wait a few minutes. During those minutes, OJ showered and left blood in the drain. And more, of course, much more.<br /><br />I don't feel like I'm being swayed by mere reporting; the facts in the trial would have allowed me to easily pronounce OJ guilty "beyond a shadow of a doubt." So no, there's no hypocrisy in my feelings about the media (and I know you raised this as an interesting talking point - and a good one!)<br /><br />@Anonymous- Funny stuff. Too bad, in retrospect, that it was all make believe.<br /><br />@graylady- Perfectly put.<br /><br />@Geoff King- Yes, apparently Florida's homestead laws will allow OJ to enjoy the wealth he should be paying to the victim's families. If Florida was smart, they wouldn't let OJ in - because when God sends a hurricane, others are likely to get hurt.<br /><br />@Rod- I'm paying a lot less attention to the "news" to. It's been quite awhile now since I've thought the media's goal was to inform me rather than influence me. Screw 'em.<br /><br />@Tracy Evans- At the point Mark Fuhrman admitted using the n-word in a screenplay, the trial was over. God help us.<br /><br />Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-67937464147209909762017-07-21T08:19:05.233-05:002017-07-21T08:19:05.233-05:00Everyone knew he is guilty. They also got to wit...<br /><br />Everyone knew he is guilty. They also got to witness a horribly run trial and a jury that wouldn't have convicted him if he'd confessedAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13433358351765795619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-24010362088123694452017-07-21T07:38:27.623-05:002017-07-21T07:38:27.623-05:00This isn't going to rerun old stories for me. ...This isn't going to rerun old stories for me. I've become much less tolerant of "news" and quicker at turning such distractions off. I hope this elite group drops it as well. Unless of course it turns out he's a Russian agent and gets invited to the White House. Something Stilt might put in here; we never know. Rodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-27756536911460371172017-07-21T07:26:02.882-05:002017-07-21T07:26:02.882-05:00Oops. Make that the BROWN and Goldman families tha...Oops. Make that the BROWN and Goldman families that can't touch the money.Geoff Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01702402850031773761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-59980603506119782022017-07-21T07:21:11.137-05:002017-07-21T07:21:11.137-05:00I read where Orenthal James will be recieving a $6...I read where Orenthal James will be recieving a $600,000 pension from the NFL upon his release, and the Simpson and Goldman families will be unable to touch it due to state law.<br />I don't think that is fair, but considering his honor and decency, I am sure he will blow it all in some way that violates his parole and will be back being Bubba's cellmate in no time.Geoff Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01702402850031773761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-57301888186164818562017-07-21T07:03:51.839-05:002017-07-21T07:03:51.839-05:00The whole trial was a mockery of the justice syste...The whole trial was a mockery of the justice system. Judge Ito let OJ's attorneys (and I use that word while gagging) run the courtroom, thus making Marsha Clark and Chris Darden, along with prosecution witnesses look unprofessional and bumbling. OJ is guilty and I will go to my grave believing that. His judgment will come at the end. Hope he has one of those "cooling" shirts to wear as hell gets pretty hot, I am told. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07756879468472383389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-31614520783847514412017-07-21T06:59:30.454-05:002017-07-21T06:59:30.454-05:00Unfortunately, justice and the law are two differe...Unfortunately, justice and the law are two different things. The law can be manipulated by clever, unprincipled, immoral men, justice never. This time those men can say,"The law was served.", but we know it was not justice. If justice had been served OJ Simpson would be serving life in prison or, better yet, executed years ago.grayladynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-7343617541618924002017-07-21T06:48:47.481-05:002017-07-21T06:48:47.481-05:00https://m.youtube.com/results?q=oj%20simpson%20nor...https://m.youtube.com/results?q=oj%20simpson%20nordberg%20&sm=1 He was great in these. ha!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-80737897179856212902017-07-21T06:41:00.476-05:002017-07-21T06:41:00.476-05:00Me? I don't know anything about that incident,...Me? I don't know anything about that incident, except what the absolutely trustworthy MSN fed me during the 25 MPH arrest and 1,000,000 MPH trial. Could he be guilty of that crime? Certainly. Is he guilty of that crime? Only he, the victims, God, and, perhaps, his lawyers know for sure. All I know is a jury of his peers says he isn't, and despite the reporting convicting him in the public arena...<br /><br />So why is the MSM trusted to have fairly and correctly reported on the Simpson incident and trial, yet cannot be trusted otherwise? Seems a bit hypocritical, doesn't it?Emmentaler "Devil's Advocate" Limburgerhttp://pateratic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-82254132496987752102017-07-21T06:18:31.047-05:002017-07-21T06:18:31.047-05:00The problem is OJ technically beat the system - he...The problem is OJ <i>technically</i> beat the system - he spent a lot of money on lawyers and got off. Unfortunately, he was judged "not guilty" and according to our Constitution, game on.<br /><br />The fact that Simpson spent nine years for armed robbery is the <i>only</i> reason the Parole Board should consider. Simpson probably spent more time in jail than the vast majority of people who commit the same crime. The Parole Board stressed that any infraction of the rules, however minor, would result in re-incarceration - he's going to be under a microscope.<br /><br />Sometimes there is no justice and the Simpson trial proves that. I hate that he's literally getting away with murder but most of all, I hate that he and his scummy lawyers perverted the truth and finagled the Constitution enough to allow him to get away with murder.Bobo the Hobonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-2505962808325080562017-07-21T06:10:05.510-05:002017-07-21T06:10:05.510-05:00A,B,C,D,E,F,G the cats in the cupboard
and can'...A,B,C,D,E,F,G the cats in the cupboard<br />and can't see me.<br />Gonna run an hide B 4 he gets free,<br />Cause I like my head still attached to me.chef621https://www.blogger.com/profile/11430209699812665584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-25238188363040471452017-07-21T05:38:12.510-05:002017-07-21T05:38:12.510-05:00I heard that the Cleveland 49ers signed him. That&...I heard that the Cleveland 49ers signed him. That'll learn him. Fred Ciampihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15088811777685044911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7492406791849373430.post-82238578373163391962017-07-21T05:22:16.008-05:002017-07-21T05:22:16.008-05:00He will be judged and sentenced eventually and per...He will be judged and sentenced eventually and permanently. Judi Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05261744230143875668noreply@blogger.com